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Vowel Sheet by BlackHatGuy Vowel Sheet by BlackHatGuy
For all those who have been confused by Gallifreyan's daunting vowel system.
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jackie2525 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I'm still really confused with A... I just don't get it! I tried to write a sentence, and I was wondering, could you take a look at it, see if I did it right?! And if not, tell me how to, because I absolutely love this and I really wanna learn to write like this! :D


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alliani Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013
I'm struggling with the O a bit. If I'm interpreting this diagram and the "A Guide to the Gallifreyan Alphabet- Loren Sherman" PDF accurately, "up" is toward the center of the word circle, and "down" is away from the center of the word circle. According the Sherman's PDF an O falls above the mid-line of the previous consonant, but in the above diagram the O following the J seems to be below the mid-line, which I would have interpreted as an A. What am I missing? :-?
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BlackHatGuy Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2013
When O is attached to a consonant, it can be anywhere "on" the letter ring, so long as it intersects. When it's on its own, it is placed inside the word circle like a small J.
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alliani Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013
Never mind - perspective shift. What I was interpreting as the mid-line of the letter circle is actually the word circle. Thanks for the great diagram(s)!
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Onlera Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
Question, professor! For the B and J stems, how come the inside vowel O is added to the edge of the stem while the edge vowels E, I, and U are added into the inside of the stem? Shouldn't it be the other way around, with O always being inside a curve while the others are always written on an edge?
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BlackHatGuy Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013
Nope. E, I, and U are always in the center of the letter.
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Onlera Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013
oh, okay, it makes more sense when i think of them as being in the center of the stem instead of in relation to the main circle. thanks! ^^ my first attempts have been going quite well, thanks to this great chart
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BlackHatGuy Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013
No problem, you're quite welcome!
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Bleeding-Ravenclaw Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
If a "y" sounds like the "ie" sound, would you use the written form of a Y, an I, or an E?
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BlackHatGuy Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012
You would use Y. Good question though! :D
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Bleeding-Ravenclaw Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Thanks so much.
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Bleeding-Ravenclaw Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That probably sounds stupid, but when a Y sounds like an I or an E, it classifies as a vowel. Thus the word "rhythm" has no vowels, but "why" does.
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GamerBoy619 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012
Er, does anyone now if there's a punctuation sheet too ? BTW Great Job :)
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BlackHatGuy Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2012
No, not as of yet. I'll make one once I get some time.
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DrOctoroc Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
The only thing that I haven't figured out yet is how the line from the U (directed outward as opposed to inward like the I) should look within a single word when not following a consonant. Within a sentence there is the "sentence circle" on the outside of all words to catch the line moving outward, but in a single word there is no such border to stop the line when it is not used within/on a consonant circle. What do you think? Should an extra circle be added just to catch it, should the line go inward like an I (and be confusing as a result), or should there be some other method of handling this? I'm just curious what you think since you came up with the method. I might suggest making the U lie within the word circle or on the letter circle instead of on the word circle or within the letter circle.
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BlackHatGuy Featured By Owner May 30, 2012
What I do when writing U's is either continue the line out for a little bit and add a dot at the end, or make it like the I but with two lines instead of one (this is how the translator does it).

But if you're just writing one word, it could be considered a one-word sentence, so there's no problem with just adding another circle around it too.
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Falmein Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012
Homg! That just made everything come together for me!
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Falmein Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012
Homg! Made things come together for me!
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thesquashedfrog Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
Vowls are extremely daunting. Just about mastered 'o', but stuck on 'i' :P
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ArtfulDalliance Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know if I'm being dense or not, but could you explain "Even if a vowel comes after a consonant, that vowel does not have to be attached to that consonant"?
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BlackHatGuy Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2011
For instance "Bow" can be written with the O on the edge of the B, or with the O alone as if there were no consonant before it.
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Onlera Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
So, if it can be written either way, is each way equally as valid? Is it just up to the writer which way to put it, based on which looks better? I have to ask, since I just started learning and this is already really bothering me >.<
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BlackHatGuy Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013
Yep, it's just another way of letting the writer have artistic license.
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Onlera Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013
thank you. good to know
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VesaneVates Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2011
Thanks for this! Very useful to have some comprehensive examples like this. Check out my page for my attempts at writing Merry Christmas and writing my name (Ultimate)
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augustdeath Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011   Writer
ohhhhh this makes sence
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